Learning Lounge Morning Connection (Saturday)

Connect with SCALE attendees in the Learning Lounge and discuss what you have gained from the morning keynote and breakouts.

Join practitioners, peers, speakers, and sponsors in the Learning Lounge for informal fishbowl conversations and pop-ups. In our fishbowl conversations, you will have the opportunity to observe or participate in thought-starter discussions to learn from leaders and your peers. Topic based pop-up conversations will be presenter lead to give you a deeper understanding on areas that impact your career. Be sure to connect with SCALE sponsors to learn about products and develop essential industry relationships.

Pop-Up Presentation

  • Working in Healthcare Design: Margi Kaminski, ASID, CLSSGB, Principal, Director Healthcare Interiors, CannonDesign

Fishbowl Discussions:

  • What is an “inclusive” workplace, and how do you find it?  
    • Facilitator: Santiago Rivera, Allied ASID, Foundations, Associations & Organizations Regional Leader/Associate, Gensler
  • Second Careerists Share: How to thrive as a “non-traditional” student  
    • Facilitator: Heather Sutherland, ASID Interior Designer II, Perkins&Will

Margi Kaminski, ASID, CLSSGB

Principal, Director Healthcare Interiors


As co-director of CannonDesign’s Health Interiors Practice, Margi supports market initiatives and strategy, focusing on business growth and client engagement. With over 30 years’ experience in practice, she has led a wide range of notable projects for many of the healthcare industry’s leading systems such as Kaiser Permanente, Northwestern Medicine, and Penn State Health. She is a frequent speaker at leading healthcare industry conferences and has been the recipient of design awards from ASID, Contract Magazine, and The Chicago Atheneum. In 2019, the Illinois Chapter of the American Society of Interior Designers, awarded Margi their “Member of Distinction,” the chapter’s highest honor.  She is actively involved in student career development and has participated in many events that support and mentor on a local and national level.  In addition, Margi was recently named to the National Board of Directors of ASID.

Santiago Rivera, Allied ASID

Foundations, Associations & Organizations Regional Leader | Associate


Santiago has been an integral member of the teams behind education, not-for-profit, workplace, and hospitality projects. He co-leads New York’s Community Impact team (Gensler’s volunteer group), is a firmwide leader for ECC 2.0 (the next generation of leaders for the Education, Civic and Culture practice area), and is regional leader for the Foundations, Associations and Organizations practice area. He leads pro-bono projects, works on research initiatives and has moderated panel discussions and round tables. In 2015, Santiago served as cultural ambassador to the new Gensler Office in Mexico City where he oversaw the development of the office culture.  Working with Change for Kids, Santiago helps fundraise and provide opportunities to over 5,000 students in the NYC public school system. He is a board member in Build Out Alliance, an organization seeking to promote and advocates for LGBTQ+ people serving openly and with pride in the building design and construction industry.

Heather Sutherland, ASID, RID, LEED AP BD+C

Associate, Interior Designer


Heather Sutherland is an Associate, Interior Designer at Perkins&Will, where she works on a variety of projects in education and civic in their Interiors Diversified studio.  She’s been with Perkins&Will since receiving her Masters of Interior Design in 2017 from the University of Texas at Austin.  Heather is actively involved in student outreach and education through programs like ACE, ASID, and RStudio.  As a Material Performance Lab member at Perkins&Will Dallas, Heather is able to spread her passion for material health and sustainability to professionals and students alike.  She is LEED AP BD+C accredited and is hard at work studying for her NCIDQ exams.  While she has lived in a variety of cities and climates, Heather has happily called Texas her home for the past ten years.


Learning Lounge Morning Connection
09/11/2021 at 11:45 AM (EDT)   |  45 minutes
09/11/2021 at 11:45 AM (EDT)   |  45 minutes Join us in the Learning Lounge (District Ballroom) for conversation and connection.